So...theft.

So greenknight5700  and I were having a conversation in Skype, and it started out something like this.





hm, a lot of people are talking about leaving dA
[6:30:24 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: like...wtf? O-o
[7:10:29 PM] Chris: lol
[7:10:37 PM] Chris: I think you might've missed the memo
[7:10:54 PM] Chris: DA has admitted that it doesn't really give a shit about copyright
[7:12:07 PM] Chris: Basically they released an infograph about the "rules" of copyright. THey've basically said that it doesn't count if you're not stealing some physical form of artwork.
[8:05:55 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: Well, I can kind of see where they are coming from
[8:06:10 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: there's not much you can do when the material is digital
[8:06:35 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: I have a feeling dA got sick of all the art theft complaints and just told it like it is
[8:10:12 PM] Chris: The whole world would be in an uproar.
[8:10:22 PM] Chris: Lawsuits freakin' everywhere!
[8:10:46 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: I'm not condoning the theft
[8:10:55 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: but see it from dA's point of view
[8:10:57 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: what can they do?
[8:11:04 PM] Chris: ^
[8:11:06 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: people will just make new accounts after being banned
[8:11:35 PM | Edited 8:11:45 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: and I doubt that dA can organize some kind of monetary requisition/recompensation
[8:12:23 PM] Chris: Hm. This is true, especially with how often it happens.
[8:12:27 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: Right
[8:12:31 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: dA got fed up
[8:12:40 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: so they said, guys, get over it, there's nothing we can do
[8:12:58 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: at least I assume that's the jist of it
[8:13:02 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: I didn't actually read it
[8:13:07 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: though I saw a lot of rants about it
[8:13:16 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: which I didn't bother to read past the previews
[8:13:28 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: cuz all it would have been was a bunch of whining
[8:13:28 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: guys
[8:13:30 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: listen
[8:13:35 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: if you are going to upload your art
[8:13:38 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: be aware of the risks
[8:13:54 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: there's ALWAYS going to be someone out there who is going to be a butt and take advantage of your art
[8:14:10 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: get over it
[8:14:15 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: I know it sounds callous
[8:14:16 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: but
[8:14:21 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: what can you do?
[8:14:25 PM] Chris: Y'know, it doesn't really
[8:14:27 PM] Chris: I mean
[8:14:41 PM] Chris: Deviantart doesn't really have a safe to put your possessions into
[8:14:57 PM] Chris: It's not a bank. It's practically a file sharing site
[8:15:02 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: Right
[8:15:16 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: and the download option that it gives you on the submission page
[8:15:22 PM | Edited 8:15:55 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: it's completely pointless, really
[8:15:23 PM | Edited 8:16:04 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: .
[8:16:12 PM] Chris: Plus, there's this neat little button that -everyone- who has a keyboard has
[8:16:15 PM] Chris: It's called screenshot
[8:16:19 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: Right
[8:16:33 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: there is NO limit to the possibilites of theft
[8:17:01 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: it's just less noticeable until someone goes and posts something, or someone makes a public complaint
[8:17:35 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: Also instagram/tumblr/etc, I mean, do they have any better security than dA?
[8:17:55 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: if they did, I could see why people would switch over
[8:18:40 PM | Edited 8:19:04 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: you know, it's the exact same thing as saying, if I shut all the windows in my house and lock all my doors everytime I go out, or when I sleep, I will be safe from theft.
[8:18:42 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: lolno
[8:19:21 PM] Chris: pfft.
[8:19:23 PM] Chris: True.
[8:19:47 PM] Chris: There's just no failsafe, and getting mad at DA isn't going to fix anything.
[8:19:54 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: exactly
[8:20:02 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: yes, it is upsetting
[8:20:28 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: and if I had been a victim of art theft in this manner, I would probably be upset too
[8:20:35 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: idk if I would go on a public rant about it
[8:20:47 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: because...people go and say, tell this person to fk off and get off dA
[8:20:51 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: that doesn't work
[8:20:59 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: that's what the thief WANTS
[8:21:06 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: to be given attention
[8:21:22 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: in the past I think I have done that, but I don't see any point anymore
[8:21:51 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: but at the same time, I think it's more of a feeling of violation than actual monetary loss/gain that gets people upset
[8:21:54 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: which is totally valid
[8:21:56 PM | Edited 8:22:04 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: it sucks
[8:22:19 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: but getting mad at dA will do nothing, and it's not very nice to blame the devs
[8:22:28 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: no wonder they released that post
[8:22:33 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: they're probly fed up
[8:22:46 PM] Chris: D: This should totally be a post. It's got way more sense than anything out there right now.
[8:26:00 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: i'm tempted to copypasta our conversation
[8:26:01 PM | Edited 8:26:06 PM] Lucy Rose  Bergman: xD